I loved on Morning Joe when Axlerod challenged them, show data ANY data whatsoever to show that gas taxs work, and it won't be just like Obama said.

oil companies raise the price to cover the cut.

and guess what? no one still has ANYTHING to say.

the oil companies will raise their prices and we can't stop that and Hillary knows that.

with him are stupid.  He says, "I think you will agree with me because you are not stupid".

That is AGAIN a very elitist thing to say.

Some people just disagree and that doesn't make them stupid.
Eventually you guys are going to get this.  

Yup. Senator Clinton used the Obama Warren Buffet line without mentioning the Warren Buffet Name. Joe and Buchanan suggested that she got the line from knocking on doors.

her speech sounded nothing like an Obama speech.  It had specifics.  That is the big difference.

We should seek by all means in our power to avoid war, by analyzing possible causes, by trying to remove them, by discussion in a spirit of collaboration and good will. I cannot believe that such a program would be rejected by the people of this country, even if it does mean the establishment of personal contact with the dictators."

  Neville Chamberlain

  How did that work out for 10 million people who died during WW 2

Um, let's see.  How about promising to take public financing in the general election?

He has made so many already.

Uh, gee, a tax break for earners under 50K......wait, lets just go to his LATEST....."I will not raise taxes on middle class"......I will raise social security tax cap  .... and I will raise tax on Capitol gains [to approx 28 percent]"........oh wait, Hillary won't, ok, I'll change that to 20 percent.

And....I'll get out troops out in 16 months. Iraq
Policy Advisor....."keep 80,000 troops in through the end of 2009."

"I am open [to privatizing] public schools".

"I am for Universal Health Care".  His plan doesn't offer Universal Health Care and he ATTACKED Hillary for having one.

I know, the list is too great.

But as I close, maybe we should listen to one of his greatest hits,

"I can not disown by Pastor, any more than I can disown my [white] Grandmother"..........vrooom, ran over that puppy.
 

He not only favored the tax holiday in IL. he voted for it three times. Change you can believe in.

He voted for it 3 times when he was in the IL state senate.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/2 9/politics/main4056059.shtml?source=RSSa ttr=Politics_4056059

"Obama took a different view on the issue when he was an Illinois legislator, voting at least three times in favor of temporarily lifting the state's 5 percent sales tax on gasoline.

The tax holiday was finally approved during a special session in June of 2000, when Illinois motorists were furious that gas prices had just topped $2 a gallon in Chicago."

So - apparently - when it suits him, he will make a phony promise.

speaking habits?

WELLLLLLL, how many of HRC's PROGRAMS has your boy copied - almost verbatium - within a week or two of HRC proposing it?

And how about yesterday when he said he agreed with her Iran plan...but just didn't approve of her words.

Dooh!

Well I hate to break it to you, but the President can't make the gas tax changes this summer either--because the President doesn't have the power to do that.  Since it has to do with taxation, the bill would have to start in the House of Representatives and then go to the Senate, and LATER be signed by the President.

McCain, Clinton, and Obama are all influential politicians.  Even though none of them are President, they DO have the power to effect policy change through their advocacy and action.  This is probably what McCain and Hillary want to happen this summer.  They are clearly not so stupid that either of them think they will be President in a month.

That said, I still think the gas tax break is a bad idea... just not for the reasons you suggest.

Obama is a politician.  He makes promises that he cannot deliver on, they all do.  The difference is what it sounds like, not what actually happens because he is just another politician and that is what they all do.  None of the things he has promised will happen just because he says so.  He panders when it suits him.

He has taken Clinton's ideas and used them as his own.  He may win the battle but he will lose the war.  Makes no difference what actually happens but what it sounds like to the voters.  It sounds like Obama thinks that a few dollars in the pockets of working Americans makes no difference, but to them it does matter.  It sounds like he doesn't really care about any thing in the short run, that is what voters hear, even if there is no chance of actually getting a tax holiday, the sound of it is " I don't care about offering you any short term solutions, because some experts say it is a bad idea"  That is what voters hear.  Once again, Obama has a tin ear and he will lose Indiana and North Carolina with his high rhetoric that discounts the working man's concerns for experts. He sounds like he doesn't care about them.  Whether the tax holiday is a good idea or not, it sounds like he doesn't care about them.

When he talks, he appears to look down his nose at  them.  That is fine for the latte crowd, and the far left but the working man and woman feels his rhetoric is condescending.  The voters have shown in these last contests that his high rhetoric is going over their heads. He will lose, just like he lost in Ohio, Texas and Penn. he will lose in Indiana and maybe even in N.C.  

When I see the black commentators on TV threatening that if he doesn't get the nomination they will not vote for Clinton, I am reminded that they may have sway in the democratic party for now, but how much will it help them if Obama wins the nomination but loses the election?  Will that be a win for them?  Because it has become apparent that there is a while backlash across this whole country.  In Feb. there was an Obama wave, but since then he has been loosing, and even lost in the suburbs of Penn.  This trend will continue.

 Hillary could maybe get the black voters to vote for her, but can Obama get those down scale blue dog democrats to vote for him?  I don't see that ever happening.  I think he is getting all the votes he is likely to get right now.  If people are not voting for him now, will they chance their minds later?  Maybe, but probably not.  Obama has already lost, his supporters just haven't realized it yet.